WIP: Tunics!

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Okay, I need to start posting in this more. I pormise I'll start uploading the rest of the current creations here soon, but I have to squee over my newest project.

If there's one thing I don't understand why we didn't have for the Sims, it was a BASIC tunic shape for men, one with normal legs and none of the funky side seams or meshed on belts from the kilt. Well, thanks to an edit of an edit of the mad scientist lab coat, i have a simple tunic for adult males with no UV mapping seams or creases or problems that goes to mid-thigh and isn't too fitted around the waist while stil being defined enough that a painted on belt wouldn't look odd.  A nice length.  And I frankenmeshed on the basic blockfeet and kept the sleeves. The plan, however, is to expnad the tunic by making variations on the tunic with different shoes- the polonaisse, any boot I fancy, even the baggy lower pants from that Russian Viking tunic. And sleeves. More sleeve choices-rolled up to the elbows, baggy, bare, the Romeo Italian Ren. sleeves.




I need to make the morphs for it still. And then beg for teen and child versions. And make a bajillion recolors.


So, suggestions for colors, mesh additions, etc?

Comments

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I've got to say, I love the neckline and may burgle it once you release this one. (I have underwear on my to-do list.) I do like the sleeves, but I'd like to suggest a tapered sleeve shape-- roomy but not bloused from shoulder to elbow, then snug down to the wrist. Good freedom of movement for swordplay without getting your cuffs caught in your scabbard. (Or dipping them in your dinner. That's a womanly concern.) Are you thinking (and I realize I am inviting a groan) of doing any hemline variations? I want to make some cotehardies, and as you can see, men's hemlines in the 14th century got more variation than women's hemlines from the fifth century to the eighteenth century. (Although with a pair of shoes on there, like FR's poulaines or some non-viney plantsim poulaines, I would totally put some peasanty recolors on this tunic as-is. I have, like, a dozen things specifically for male peasants, and they're all by Iamliz13.)

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variations? ho boy yay. I agree, so sleeves: a puffy and gathered at wrist sleeve, a loose from shoulder to elbow and snug to wrist, the Italian Ren., some short sleeves and bare arms. What else- any good long drapy sleeves, or save that for lady dresses? As for hems, while I have finally got a full length alpha male robe mesh working, I don't want to touch alpha meshes for dudes for a long time now. But I think I can try to make a version of this tunic with the hemline right below the crouch. (It's easy to shorten a hem than try to lengthen).

Shoes- okay, FR's poulaines. Which boots? (Good Lord, if there was a mesh out there with thigh high dude boots I'd be slobbering over them like bees on honey)

This texture is part of my 18th century men clothing- I did 32 colors each of a basic colonial era suit in 7 sets. 1) just pants and stockings, 2) pants, stockings, shoes 3) pants, stockings, shoes, and white undershirt 4) pants, stockings & shoes, white undershirt with meshed-on cravat 5) pants, shoes & stockings, undershirt w/ cravat, and waistcoat vest 6) All that and the matching jacket.
So obviously the only stages of undress and catagory I was missing was swim and sleep. For swimwear I'm tempted to do a sexyfeet nude mesh version of the shirt-less pants without stockings, but for sleep I wanted a nightshirt mesh I could plop the undershirt texture on without major editing. Which meant new mesh because only sleep shirt meshes we had were meshes with the raised collar.

So yes, the texture also works for medieval? sweet. And honestly, if you volunteer, I'll let you do the "each linen shade w/ all the matching chausse colors". Because I am three minutes away from that myself.


Oh, finished a rough fatmorph. I'll make a simple pregmorph for it too since I can plan on you using this.

[hat_plays_sims]

Oh god gimme a minute to dig for sleeves okay. Houppelandes are ridiculous but I actually like them better on men than on women. I like the wide cuffs on this cote because if anybody makes a good glove accessory, they could possibly safely be combined. (Also cos I find one of the models very attractive, I think.) Bag sleeves are awesome but I have no idea how well they'd animate. Still, Besen managed to make it work (check the Italian Renaissance tunic). These are awkward to link, so, Baggy Sleeves gown and Hanging Sleeves cotehardie and I don't actually know what an Esclavine is but I like it and these are all a little late for my purposes but they're right in line with the Romeo tunic (early 14th century Italian. Later outside Italy, except the stuff from Burgundy). There's not much for men here and what there is is fairly basic, but hey, it's a link, right? (Please note I am not asking, merely hurling suggestions.) For sawing things directly off existing meshes, there's the Count D robe, Aligeth's Lord of the Manor nightgown, Cynnix's laced-sleeve gown might replicate some of those late-period sleeves, and Cocomama's fur coats (or the Glamour Life Stuff fur coats, really) would make good fur-trimmed sleeves, but I actually think that'd look funny without a fur-trimmed hem.

Shoes. FR's poulaines are really good, the Plantsim shoes would allow for lots of these ankle-boot variations, not to mention some of these, and as for a thigh-high boot... couldn't you do a plantsim-shoe foot, then sort of add a flare like turning the cuff of the pirate boot upside down somewhere on the thigh? Fold-top boots got their start as thigh-high riding boots, just rolled down once the gentleman got off his horse.

I've seen similar necklines on reproduction undershirts, at least, so yeah, as far as I can tell it's quite passable. (Usually I think it'd be an even simpler keyhole neckline, but hey, wealthy men wore undershirts, too.) And boy do I hear you on swimwear and sleepwear and other such scanties! There wasn't such a thing as a swimsuit until the Victorians decided one needed a special bathing costume; in the middle ages, you went swimming in a) whatever you fell into the water wearing b) whatever quick-drying layer you stripped down to or c) nothing. I've got Bloom's sexyfeet true-nude classified as underwear, sleepwear, and swimwear for all ages and both genders in my game. And all my chausses. I've actually decided that any outfit I'd sooner use for nightclothes/underwear, done in a dyed color instead of white, gets to be swimwear, and for my ladies any chemise or shift with a full sleeve is a nightgown, not underwear. Which at least helps me spot the different categories when I'm using the clothing tool.

And that bit about chausses? That depends entirely on how many linen colors you want. I don't even do my own chausses with varied linen colors on the braises because I do twenty colors available from child to elder and sometimes there are women or bodyshapes and there's a lot of button clicking there and I'm still trying not to be tempted to take my beige chausses and hit them with Volatile and do the eighty-two combo I used for all those Robin Hood tunics. (Besides, I usually do a minimum of four and a maximum of twelve linen variations. Do you really NEED eighty-to-two-hundred-forty nightshirt-and-chausses combinations?)

Yay for morphs! And I will assuredly be doing recolors at some point; I wasn't looking forward to messing with the meshed collar on the Sim Ages nightshirt. (Still might use it for swimwear, though.)

Now to go see what that other comment you left on my entry was.

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Well, when fixing the meshes for things like seams, UV mapping on the hand, and wrestling the normals so there isn't horrible dark shadows at the hem, I lost the morphs and can't seem to get my MS to let me rebuild them. Which is annoying. But I decided to focus on making the meshes themselves and the recolors and come back to the morphs - or just hope some kind person adds them and does teen and other body-shape conversions. :P

BUT I do have now a blockfeet and sexyfeet version of the above tunic, the blockfeet with 5 white to cream undershirts paired with white stockings, and the sexyfeet I did a ton of linen shades- basically almost all the color actions you do plus a few more. Because.

Once I mock up textures, I'll show the third mesh. Same tunic, but poulaine shoes and I crafted up a sleeve that hopefully works. It uses a bare arm to about halfway up the forearm, then billows out a bit to give a loose from elbow to shoulder. Not actually your wishlist photo, but I think pretty close. Of course, it's not the snug-fitting tunic with a hem right at the crouch, but hey, better than anything we've had before.


(that the morphs are being a pill ticks me off so much. And I hate doing them because I suck at them and are so time consuming for me even when they do work)